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	<title>Comments on: Big City Plan: consultation or control freakery?</title>
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	<description>Michael Grimes lives in Birmingham (UK). This is his blog about anything that he fancies.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://citizensheep.com/blog/2009/02/16/big-city-plan-consultation-or-control-freakery/comment-page-1/#comment-2138</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Fiona. I think clearer communication is the key. That should include having a clear internal strategy that everyone in the organisation is expected to follow, based on a clear purpose. In this case the Council seemed to keep changing its mind (for example, the website changed its mind about the nature of &#039;consultation&#039; halfway through it), and clearly &lt;a href=&quot;http://citizensheep.com/blog/2009/01/26/whitby-commandeers-bus-in-contempt-for-public-consultation/&quot; title=&quot;Whitby commandeers bus in contempt for public consultation&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;some members were free to ride rough-shod over the process&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Fiona. I think clearer communication is the key. That should include having a clear internal strategy that everyone in the organisation is expected to follow, based on a clear purpose. In this case the Council seemed to keep changing its mind (for example, the website changed its mind about the nature of &#8216;consultation&#8217; halfway through it), and clearly <a href="http://citizensheep.com/blog/2009/01/26/whitby-commandeers-bus-in-contempt-for-public-consultation/" title="Whitby commandeers bus in contempt for public consultation" rel="nofollow">some members were free to ride rough-shod over the process</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicky Getgood</title>
		<link>http://citizensheep.com/blog/2009/02/16/big-city-plan-consultation-or-control-freakery/comment-page-1/#comment-1955</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicky Getgood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!  I know we both groaned audibly over re-writing this thing, it was bloody hard, slow, horrible work.  I&#039;ll never forget us spending a good three-quarters of an hour and a good helping of red wine trying to decipher one sentance.  It&#039;s easy to see why The Big City Plan bred some cycnism along the lines of &#039;our opinions don&#039;t count really&#039;.  Hopefully those hours we put in will mean some of the people put off by the original will have their opinions heard.  Fingers crossed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  I know we both groaned audibly over re-writing this thing, it was bloody hard, slow, horrible work.  I&#8217;ll never forget us spending a good three-quarters of an hour and a good helping of red wine trying to decipher one sentance.  It&#8217;s easy to see why The Big City Plan bred some cycnism along the lines of &#8216;our opinions don&#8217;t count really&#8217;.  Hopefully those hours we put in will mean some of the people put off by the original will have their opinions heard.  Fingers crossed.</p>
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		<title>By: FionaH</title>
		<link>http://citizensheep.com/blog/2009/02/16/big-city-plan-consultation-or-control-freakery/comment-page-1/#comment-1949</link>
		<dc:creator>FionaH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah; it all seems like a bit of a gesture rather than an actual desire to really consult with the public. Admittedly there&#039;s no pleasing everyone all the time and if the Council took absolutely everyone&#039;s opinion into consideration it would be chaotic. But at least there ought to be clearer communication and some form of 2-way influence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah; it all seems like a bit of a gesture rather than an actual desire to really consult with the public. Admittedly there&#8217;s no pleasing everyone all the time and if the Council took absolutely everyone&#8217;s opinion into consideration it would be chaotic. But at least there ought to be clearer communication and some form of 2-way influence?</p>
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